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I now have to reboot this crap every day for one reason or another, it's not a hardware problem, windows 98 worked fine on this computer. right now I can't do anything because it highlights instead of writes when I need it to. it's like the shift and control keys are permently on.

There are some stupid icons that show up when I put my mouse over a picture so you can't see the top left corner of the image.

if I try to view a movie it brings up quicktime and I can't find a simple way to change that in IE, it's no longer in the preferences menu. unfortunaly because of my job searches many pages REQUIRE that I use IE to fill out there job form.

I did an install, upgraded it with all the latest patches. now installed are: VNC server, netscape, maya, nero cd burning software and 3D studio max... nothing else is installed!!

anyone who uses Windows as their main OS is stupid, I am sorry but you are... if you say it's because you don't know how to use anything else you are even dumber FreeBSD is 1000x easier than this shit, it doesn't crash, it does what it's supposed to do. grrrrr.....

Date: 2002-06-29 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asbrand.livejournal.com
Sorry, mate...but the problem must be YOU. I've been using Win2000 for almost a year now and I *never* have problems with it. Period. On several different PC's. Running LOTS of crap. My work PC usually has about 20 different apps open at one time, and never crashes. And my work PC is a piece of crap Compaq iPaq that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy...

And while FreeBSD may be easier *to you*, it certainly isn't to the majority of people. I'm no dummy, and it's taken me a long while to figure out crap, mostly by asking you. I've *yet* to get some type of x-windows thingy working right. Finally gave up on that one box, and turned it into a webserver running Apache.

Now...am I saying Windows 2000 is perfect? Hell no. Far from it. But I think it is the *best* Windoze OS that's ever come from Micro$oft.

Just my two farthing's worth... ;-)

And...no...I'm not an "idiot" because I run a Windows system as my main OS. If someone would begin actually writing GAMES (the popular ones) for FreeBSD (or any unix), I'd switch. But they don't. So, I won't...

Just giving you another perspective...



-Az

firewall

Date: 2002-06-29 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hugs.livejournal.com
Think about what you were doing with FreeBSD, setting up a firewall and NATD is not an easy task in any OS.

I have a windows box for games too.... (however I think I am going to go back to 98, it was SO much more stable) but it's not my main computer, it's what I play games on and work with 3D graphics on. The only other time I might use it is when some idiot has written a web page that can only be viewed with IE.

Re: firewall

Date: 2002-06-29 09:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asbrand.livejournal.com
Yeah...I agree there... When I write a page, I try to make it viewable in everything.

Making it "IE" only is moronic... ;-)



-Az

Date: 2002-06-29 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asmodeuis.livejournal.com
i agree with az man. dont get me wrong windows has alot of issues on various levels but i ran 2k for almost 2 years and it never crashed. Of course i am sure if i switched to total bsd or *nix i would be screaming bloody murder too. :) feel free to ask people about 2k ;) not sure i know all of what ya need but i can try to help ya out.


and yes it would be a better world if everyone used bsd :)

Date: 2002-06-29 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cor256.livejournal.com
I try to not think of myself as you put it stupid as well as even dumber.

I am using XP right now. Works fine for me and has been for a little while now. 2000 wasnt all that horrible when I used it. But that has been said already.

I dont know any other systems because I dont care to at the moment. So far, Windows has done pretty much everything I have needed it to. I like the idea of dont mess with something that works. Yes I realize that is kind of a "sticking my head in a hole" theory, but that is fine with me.


My 2 bits worth.

Cor

post

Date: 2002-06-29 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hugs.livejournal.com
read the post a little further down about the bread shop....

and the bit about emulating windows, it's the same... you don't have to LEARN anything.

but it DOEN'T work, not a single one of you have told me how to get rid of that stupid "print-copy-fax-email" icon that pops up when you mouse over an image. or how to get rid of the help bubble from the windows update icon that jumps at me randomly...

you say you don't want to learn something new, but aparantly you dont' know how to use windows either... so what is your excuse for paying for an operating system again?

Re: post

Date: 2002-06-29 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asbrand.livejournal.com
...and who said we paid for it? ;-)

Besides...there are plenty of places out there to find out how to turn that stuff off.

I'm not sure I know what "print-copy-fax-email" icon you are talking about. As for the help bubbles, yeah, you can turn that off. Don't recall off the top of my head, but I'll look...



-Az

Re: post

Date: 2002-06-30 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cor256.livejournal.com
I read it over a few times since I go tthis reply.
I see where you are complaining about things, but never saw where you were asking for help.
*shrug*

you are correct that we could get an emulator of windows or whatever os we want, but then what would be the purpose of that over having windows itself?

I'm guessing that you are going to say stability and price. Well, I havent had hardly any problems at all with too many of windows os's. granted I dont go in and tinker and tweak things inside, so maybe I wont have these problems. Or maybe I have been pretty damn lucky so far. *shrug* who knows. But for price, well, who pays for the OS these days?

I deffinatly wouldnt want an emulator for the main reason of if something goes wrong, I woudlnt knwo if its the emulator or what. And then I wouldnt have a clue how to fix it. I am fairly familar with most windows OS's. I have read ahead and see that you do have the things you were complaining about resolved. That is something I could fin on Windows, but since Windows is pretty much the only thing I know, well, I'd be dead in the water on another type of OS. I'd have to rely on tech support or support from you guys that DO know the systems. Why waste your time as well as mine?

Besides, for what all I do, I'm content with Windows, and you are content with everything else. Its all a matter of fitting the square peg into the square hole and star peg into the star hole. I just dont see how my using something that works fine for me makes me stupid.

Cor

Date: 2002-06-29 10:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyswatter.livejournal.com
I have been using Windows 2000 at work for a long time now and it seems pretty stable, occasionally crashing but not as often as Mac OS9 which I LOVE despite it's occasional instability (haven't upgraded to OSX yet despite Allen's hearty endorsement). I use it because the digital printer we use has a Wintel machine running 2000 at its heart and we have been threatened not to do anything with it, not to add software to it, not to touch it, not to even replace the monitor....but that has nothing to do with the computers I use. The software I use to make photographic packages require Windows ME (ick), 2000 or XP, although I heard we could also use a Mac running SoftWindows (not Virtual PC). I would love to use FreeBSD or Linux or something, frankly.

software

Date: 2002-06-29 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hugs.livejournal.com
discribe what it does, I am sure there is the same thing in either linux or unix.

if not... for what companies spend on software now days you can HIRE a programer to come and and write a cusom application in linux/unix for you conforms to your task instead of confoming your task to the software.

Re: software

Date: 2002-06-29 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rastaban.livejournal.com
No, there isn't. It is only written for Windows, alas. But it seems pretty straightforward, like it could easily be booted over to Mac or Unix if their motivation was good enough. The free version, Assembler, can be downloaded from http://www.dpilab.com if you want to take a look at it. It takes raw .tif, .jpg or .psd files and builds hints which I then rip for printing. It builds photographic packages, basically (like when you were in elementary school and your parents order pictures of you with 8 wallets, 2 5x7s, and an 8x10). There are lots of built in package sets in this program, as well as different effects you can create (black and white, sepia, vignette, etc.). You can preview the 8x10 and the 5x7 crop ahead of time, and you can rotate and crop in on the photograph and print out a report to send to the lab and can burn a CD to send to the lab also. And the pro package allows color correction. Basically it does nothing that Photoshop can't do, but it does it much quicker. Unfortunately, it works only for Windows (or fake Windows), because that is the most popular operating system. And I am no programmer, nor do I have a clue about Unix. Heck, I don't even know Dos (I used CP/M back in the 1980's before I discovered the Mac and haven't looked back at non-graphical interfaces). The computer I use at work is not mine, but I wish it was. It is kick ass, and has to be with this software.

Re: software

Date: 2002-06-29 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyswatter.livejournal.com
Ack, sorry! I posted this under Dwight's handle!!!!

Re: software

Date: 2002-06-29 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hugs.livejournal.com
ah my dear but there is one!!! one not only much faster than the one you use but able to do everything you have said without even opening a gui!!!

it's actually not a program it's a suite of programs and I use it all the time. it's called image magic, I have a program that I wrote known as filefilecreator that uses mogrify (one of the programs in image magic) to make hundreds of images to thumbnails in just a few seconds.

http://www.tuxinternet.com/cgi-bin/man.cgi?MAN=mogrify

that is info on the program mogrify that I use, the script to set up what you are asking could be written very easily, I could knock one out in a couple of hours at the most. it could run on an unlimited number of images, could write to the cd by itself, could create previews, and web pages by it self done with one simple command by an end user, or a click of a button, it's not that hard to create a button that does it all for you.

http://www.tuxinternet.com/cgi-bin/man.cgi?MAN=ImageMagick

this is a man page for the enitre suite discribing what it can do.

if you wanted to make changes to an individual image with your gui there is a program called gimp. it started slow but has become for some things as powerful as photoshop. I also have set up a network scanner. all the computers at my house can use the same scanner.

Everything I have mentioned is either opensource or freesource.

like I said, all you have to do is ask ;-)

Date: 2002-06-29 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kethryvis.livejournal.com
No offense, babe, but judging someone's entire worth on an OS is really idiotic.

I use Windows. Yeah its a piece of crap. But you know what? It does what I need it to do. And easily. If I need to set up my printer, there's already a driver for it. I don't have to pray that someone has decided to write one, or I'm screwed because I can't write my own driver. I don't have the time right now to devote to learning Linux... I do plan to one day, but right now I actually have other priorities.

And to be honest, its this kind of attitude that will be the death of Linux/*nix as a mainstream OS. Most vocal Linux/*nix users have this attitude of "Microsoft sucks and anyone who uses it sucks more. But we're not going to make our OS easier to work/use/figure out because you have to be l33t to figure it out and earn our respect." The whole reason Microsoft has suceeded is because their OS is easy. And actually have tech support that isn't a kid (mentally or chronologically) who doesn't take you to task because you can't figure something out (by calling you "stupid", banning you out of IRC, etc. Don't tell me it doesn't happen, because it does). They might in private, but not always to your face.

I'm sorry to rant at you, but I'm sick and tired of this kind of immaturity from the Open Source "community". I put up with it when I worked for UF but its just gotten worse in the intervining years. If this "community" is actually serious about taking over the world, they have to suck up and become more open to the idea of non-literate people using the OS. Its *not* as easy as it is to you for other people (my mom can barely use Windows. If I stuck her on a BSD box, I'd be signing my own murder confession), and you're just going to have to accept that.

drivers

Date: 2002-06-29 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hugs.livejournal.com
I hate to tell you this but drivers are MUCH easier to deal with in FreeBSD than windows, so far I have 1 CDRW drive and a couple of network cards (that I can't find drivers for in ANY os) that I don't have drivers for out of the 80 computers and endless parts I have here at my house... everything is built in, most devices are already in the kernel with the exception of sound.

to enable the sound device you add the line:

device pcm

that is it... no hunting online for drivers, no having to find a floppy for your network card because you can't download it due to the network not working yet. it just works. windows drivers are the harderst drivers I have EVER worked with.

it can't be any eaiser to figure out considering there is an emulator that makes it look EXACTLY like windows. another one that make it look like a mac, if you are used to CDE it will emulate that... it doesn't matter what you are used to, there is nothing to learn... just a stable OS!!

OK, so lets say that there is a Kroger next door that sells old stale bread for 2.50 a loaf, but there is a small mom and pop shop a mile away from you that gives away freshly made bread for FREE... why the HELL would you go up the street to the kroger to get bread? do you see my point... it stupid, it's a waste... bring me the $150 for the cost of the OS and I will do a full install for you and set it up to look exactly like windows...

Re: drivers

Date: 2002-06-29 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kethryvis.livejournal.com
Number one: Can I play WarCraft III on *nix/BSD? Can I watch DVDs with ease (and not break the law)?

Why should I set up one box to play games, etc and use a totally separate box for everything else... when I can do it all on one?

I'm not defending Windows as a WONDERFUL OS... I'll be the first to admit its bloody well annoying (though I will say I had no problems with Win2K (there were a few game glitches but those resoled rather quickly), and everyone I've talked to that's used XP is rather happy with it, performance wise.) But, I will also say that the *nix based OS's are far from perfect (as far away as Windows is, but for different reasons).

Number two: You missed my point entirely.

My point is I'm sick and tired of this elitist attitude towards *nix based operating systems. It speaks to the immaturity of the "community" (which I use that term incredibly loosely anymore, after being in the thick of it for several years) and shows the weakness of Open Source OS's.

For you and I and many others who are rather computer literate, yes the *nix based OSs aren't that hard. But what about my mom, who can't even figure out Windows half the time? Putting her on a *nix box would kill her. Joe Q Public computer user would be too frustrated too quickly (how do I know? I took a Linux class last semester. 5 out of 25 of us had Linux experience. Us five scored highest in the class. the other 20 were windows only users [as was the instructor] and did miserably and couldn't figure anything out, even though we were only using the GUI interface, not command line).

I'm not trying to argue one OS is better than another. I'm simply trying to argue that the *nix community needs to shape up and get some maturity if they want the OSs to succeed. Otherwise, they will fall by the wayside and the MS monopoly will just get bigger.

Put it another way. You're trying to learn a forgien language. By yourself. You've read the manuals, you've listened to tapes, you've done everything you can on your own. However, you're still having a bit of difficulty. You seek out a native for assistance. You walk in, you pose your question to this group of native speakers. They *laugh* at you, tell you you're stupid for not being able to figure it out on your own, they tell you to go read the books (again!), and then proceed to jump on you and kick your ass, then toss you out of the room and lock the door.

Would you want to try and continue to learn this language? Or would you just rather say FOAD and forget the entire thing?

This has happened to several people I know who have tried to unravel *nix. Some of them have given up. And after treatment like that, I don't blame them.

This kind of attitude makes *nix seem no better than Microsoft in a lot of ways.

Just my two cents. I'm tired of this attitude, and it disgusts me. There *is* room for more than one OS in this world. It just takes both MS *and* the *nix supporters being mature enough to see it.

Re: drivers

Date: 2002-06-29 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hugs.livejournal.com
to your question about games, yes, warcraft III works great with linux and wine... there are LOTS of sites that give you easy instructions on how to set it up.

you can't watch DVD movies on any computer and not break the law. have you noticed that computer DVD players do not have the riaa dvd symbol on them? there for, every time you put a movie in you break the law, your hardware isn't cirtified to play it.

as for learning it. my grandmother uses it, I know lots of kids under 10, boys and girls who have done full installs and setups.

and everything that you say you could say the same thing about windows, you've read the manuals, you've heard the tapes, you are stuck by yourself to learn it, good luck, what are you going to do? call microsoft tech support? yea, right, have you actually tried to call them lately?

this kind of attitude comes from the 1.5 weeks I have had windows 2000 and tried to get it to work...

it's funny, noone ever responds with "this is how you get it to work" or "this is your problem" if you post a unix problem, I will do the best I can to fix it. ask some of the people on my friends list who are now runing a *nix.

but if I have a windows problem -- nobody will help, even simple stuff.. I have asked tons of people how to get rid of this stupid "mail -- copy -- print" icon that shows up in the top left had corner of all my images. but noone wants to answer. how do I turn off all the wizards. the one responce I got was hit cancel, uh, no that just closes the wizard, I still need to install the driver I just don't want to use the wizard.

so you see, it's a two way street babe, at least I am willing to help with it's my operating system under attack.

Re: drivers

Date: 2002-06-29 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyswatter.livejournal.com
If you are having problems with Windows, don't ask for my help! I can usually fix a Mac problem but I find Windows a royal bitch and can't support it any more than the simple basic stuff. I know that it is very easy to wreck a Microsucks operating system and have seen the dreaded blue screen many times. I will see if Dwight can help you out since he is supposedly a Microsoft flunky, although he does server support for Hewlett Compaqard.

Re: drivers

Date: 2002-06-29 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asbrand.livejournal.com
I'll be happy to help as soon as I figure out what the hell you are talking about... ;-)

I don't know what "copy-print-fax" icon you are talking about. I don't have that. I've never seen anything like it.



-Az

Re: drivers

Date: 2002-06-29 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hugs.livejournal.com
I finally found it...

under IE, Tools, prefrences, advanced, multimedia

there is a box marked "Enable Image Toolbar (requires restart)"

that was the problem.

I took off that damn image resizing while I was there.

Who in their right mind would put these things in by default?!?

Date: 2002-06-29 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asbrand.livejournal.com
Ok, here's a few items to help:

Know how the Program Menu ends up "hiding" things from you? Yeah, that's annoying. Turn it off by:

1. Start --> Settings --> Taskbar and Start Menu.
2. Uncheck Use Personalized Menus.
3. Click OK

Turn off the "fading" in and out of the Start Menu:

Right-click on your desktop and select Properties, then go to the Effects tab. From there, your first option is the menus. Uncheck the box to turn off all effects, or you can select to have the menus displayed with the scrolling effect most people are used to. And scrolling is a lot faster.

...am still looking on how to turn off those bubble help thingys...



-Az

Date: 2002-08-11 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dev8ti0n.livejournal.com
I have question, if you don't mind me asking. A friend gave me 3D Studio Max and I can't for the life of me figure out how to install it. Someone installed it for him. Everytime I try it just doesn't seem to work. It's a working copy. I know that for sure. I got the copy for my girlfriend who is going to The Art Institute of Phoenix. I know how much it costs and would like to get it for her for free. If you know what I mean.

So if possible, I'd like to know how to install it, if it isn't any trouble for you. I totally understand, if you don't get back to me. I was just typing in "How to install 3D Studio Max" in yahoo and your LJ came up.
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