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ok, so I went to go get my emissions test today.. I have always thought this was fucking stupid but whatever

I failed it.. you wanna know why? you wanna fucking know why? because my check engine light is burned out.

no, I'm not kidding, I am destroying the enviroment because I have a bunred out bulb on my dashboard.. they wouldn't even giv eme the rest of the emissions test...

Fuck you anyone who thinks that this emissions testing thing is a 'good idea' and not a 'currupt way to create jobs that aren't needed' and 'just another way to steal my money'

fuck all of you.


fucking liberal bastards...

Date: 2006-03-09 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-am-devilbunny.livejournal.com
Uh, yeah. I agree.
That's bullshit.
But, *I* (being the liberal bastard that I am) do think that cars should be tested.
I just don't think you should have to pay for it.

Date: 2006-03-09 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hugs.livejournal.com
Why? the cars inspected add less than 2% to the polution problem.. the big problems are trucks... (see later post on this) and companies...

but stronger restrictions on those? NO!! there is more MONEY in charging the consumer... the emissions test are there to make money NOT to control air polution... it's hiding behind 'oh this is to help with the enviroment' which is bullshit.

and as far as paying for it? someone has to pay for it.. if it's paid for by the governemnt not only am I still paying for it but you are forcing people who don't have a car to pay for it as well.. that's not right at all!!

the entire 'emissions inspection' is bullshit.. plain and simple...

have you ever noticed that all the stats which are FOR emissions inspections only talk about the number of cars.. NOT the quaility of air... you know why? because it HASN'T HELPED.. AT ALL!! the quality of air has not changed since the inspections started.... go look for your self, try to find a study of air quality before and after the emissions inspections...

Date: 2006-03-10 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-am-devilbunny.livejournal.com
well when I said "cars" I was speaking of all vehicles.
But you're right. As soon as I posted this I thought of the tax payer.
The government goes about things the long and hard way as it's wont to do and puts the burden on the working man.
But hell, you can't argue against the fact that air quality has gone down a lot.
Maybe it's not just combustuble engines maybe it's not just second hand smoking.
But when the newsbroadcast has an alert about the air for people who just want to freaking jog outside, somethings fucking wrong!
Dana Reeve died of lung cancer "cause unknown" screw that! I know what the freakin' cause was: the bloody fucking Los Angeles smog is probably the culprit!
*sigh* sorry for ranting.
Call me a tree-hugging-liberal-hippie but we need to ween ourselves off of oil.

Date: 2006-03-10 01:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hugs.livejournal.com
you don't get it... emissions testing has NOTHING to do with helping the enviorment.. nothing at all.. not a thing.. it's a way for the current administration to create (useless) jobs...

it doesn't help with the weening off oil.. it doesn't help with anything to do with that...

it is a JOB PROGRAM. it's built to fool people into thinking it's there to help the enviroment. it's NOT.

Date: 2006-03-10 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-am-devilbunny.livejournal.com
No no, I'm sorry you misunderstood me, my fault: I was on a rant and not being thourough with my thoughts.
I'll agree that having mandatory emission testing obviously ain't helping.
In my over 20 years of living in Atlanta, I can tell the difference from 5th grade years to before I left.
You're right, you're right: emissions inspection ain't doin' squat.
So begin second rant:
So perhaps maybe they should concentrate the people in the JOB PROGRAM into helping to refine the alternative sources of fuel that have been in development since the 70's, but subdued, since "god forbid" the shareholders of the Big Oil companies might lose some money to a compeditive source.
I think that's what I ment by the comment of "weening ourselves off of oil", because these products are by no means infinate and I'm getting sick and tired of the fights to keep things clean, our parks preserved and our young out of war.
Oh and even though I know you'll hate him you should give a listen to Jello Biafra's spoken word, he's got this one bit called "Die for oil sucker!" and the scariest thing about it is that it echos from the Gulf War what has been happening these past few years...Like father like son.
>end rant<
Love you man, happy birthday! Enjoy the watch!





Date: 2006-03-09 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] retrofatale.livejournal.com
What does a light bulb have to do with Emissions?

Date: 2006-03-09 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hugs.livejournal.com
thus... my point

Date: 2006-03-09 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kizayaen.livejournal.com
Well, the theory is that if you have a failure in your emissions control system, then it will be reflected by your Check Engine light. So, having a burnt-out light means that you could have an ECS failure and be unaware of it.

Date: 2006-03-09 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madmexican.livejournal.com
funny....your more liberal than most people I know....well....maybe not so much. Actually.....I have always thought emissions testing was bogus anyway. Yes....there are more cars on the road than semi-trucks....but have you ever seen how much black smoke they blow out at least two of their gigantic smokestacks. Hello...they burn diesel....do you how less that is refined, or refined differently I might say.....are they tested? No.

Date: 2006-03-09 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alladinsane.livejournal.com
testing the trucks would cost big business money, which means less to contribute to politicians...

Date: 2006-03-09 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-am-devilbunny.livejournal.com
Ugh, I know what you mean!
I see these trucks and older cars just belch out toxic fumes. If I'm on the sidewalk, I can't breathe.
Of course cars olders than, what is it, twenty years are exempt from being tested (at least in Georgia it was)
But with all the automotive advancements that have been made, don't you think that it's the *older* cars that need to be tested?

Date: 2006-03-09 06:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dwivian
The law has already changed to phase out sulfur based diesel (just like lead gasoline, the sulfur is a lubricant that is no longer needed in modern engines). Alas, the diesel truck lobby is pretty strong, and thus works to push the deadline out.

Refined diesel has very few pollutants or fumes. It's good stuff, and is used in Europe to some success in reducing emissions.

(the reason older cars aren't tested is to avoid a financial burden to the owner to get them up to standards..... stupid, ain't it?)

Date: 2006-03-09 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hugs.livejournal.com
can't test cars made before the QOS standards for emissions, that would break federal law.

you can't pass a law that restricts something built before the law was past... same reason you can't deny the 8 americans legally allowed to smoke pot the right to smoke pot...

Date: 2006-03-10 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-am-devilbunny.livejournal.com
Which 8 americans are this and can I go over to thier place? :)

Date: 2006-03-09 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alladinsane.livejournal.com
yep..and annual to boot...enviro nut friendly California only tests emissions every other year!

Date: 2006-03-09 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silverambz.livejournal.com
WTF? Why isn't it just included with your annual inspection? Dude that is so messed up.

Date: 2006-03-09 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovelylotus.livejournal.com
Georgia doesn't have an annual inspection. The only thing required to renew registration is to pass the emmissions test if the vehicle requires it (age of vehicle, etc).
In NY, they do a huge inspection (brakes, wipers, headlights, taillights, etc). In Georgia, you could say that it is the annual inspection...the only thing inspected is the emmissions level.

Date: 2006-03-09 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silverambz.livejournal.com
Are insurance rates higher in Georgia?

See, I live in North Carolina, and you have to have an annual inspection, but this is the first i've heard about "emissions tests", and in order to have a license you HAVE to have insurance as well (which I have heard maybe only 2 other states do that)

Date: 2006-03-09 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovelylotus.livejournal.com
Having grown up in upstate NY, I am very familiar with yearly inspections. I am not sure about the insurance rates compared to that of other states, but no one seems to think that my rates are all that unusual so I would believe they are comparable. When I lived in Virginia Beach (for only a year), they didn't require you to get insurance, because if you didn't have it when you went to register, they sold you the state version so everyone had insurance. Georgia does require that you have liability insurance at time of renewal of your registration.

Date: 2006-03-09 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenniferj1981.livejournal.com
i'd kick some ass :P

Date: 2006-03-09 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] splunge.livejournal.com
First of all, why did you tell them? They arent allowed to do the inspection unless the check engine light is off (which you dont know if the bulb is burned out) but the only way theyd know is if they asked you and you told them. 1. Why the hell would they ask you if the bulb is burned out, and 2. why didnt you just lie?

And not doing the test is not failing. You only fail the test if theres something wroing with your actual emissions or your gas cap.

Date: 2006-03-09 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hugs.livejournal.com
I didn't tell them, I didn't even realize it was bunred out.. they tested it before the started the inspection.

Date: 2006-03-09 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grizzlydan.livejournal.com
Thanks for reminding me. Since we share a birthday, it's time for me to do the tag thing too, but I'm not required to do the emissions thing up here in Bartow. I remember the pain vividly, though.

Date: 2006-03-09 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nausved.livejournal.com
I fail to see how this is a "liberal" thing.

Liberals are generally more interested in busting pollution created by corporations rather than hurting the poor folks who can't afford a nice, new car. But, of course, corporations don't want to stop polluting, so it will never happen unless the nation gets a whole lot less conservative.

Date: 2006-03-10 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hugs.livejournal.com
this has nothing to do with the enviroment! that's the point! it's a job program.

liberals are notorious for hiding one program behind the front of another... what do you think the corporation known as 'green peace' is?

Give me a break John

Date: 2006-03-12 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-hueman.livejournal.com
Liberals are notorious for hiding one program behind another...

Bull fucking shit!

I swear you don't define liberal as some one concerned with liberty and liberal policies you define liberal as "people I disagree with"

I'm liberal and the last damn thing I would do is hide a program behind another

Date: 2006-03-10 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flyswatter.livejournal.com
Eh, I can sort of see it failing over that, believe it or not. It is part of your emission system. It shouldn't be expensive to fix, so try not to sweat it. It needs to be in good working order anyway as it is an important indicator of the state of your engine.

I have failed over a gas cap, myself.

And, what makes you think reducing air pollution is a fucking liberal bastards-only trait? If you dislike something does that make it liberal???? I am liberal. Do you dislike me?

Good conservatives care about conserving the environment, unless they are fucking religious right bastards who think that we can trash the earth because God's kingdom is in heaven.

Date: 2006-03-10 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hugs.livejournal.com
you don't get it! this has NOTHING to do with air pollution!!! nothing!

it's a JOB program!!! and yes, job programs are a liberal thing.

Date: 2006-03-10 01:30 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-03-10 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nausved.livejournal.com
Er... I really doubt emissions inspections are intended as a job program. It doesn't really supply that many jobs, when it comes down to it.

Cleaning up pollution on the side of the highway? Sure, that's a job program. Constructing parks? I'd call that a job program, too.

But emissions inspections? That's just not job program material, if you ask me.


"liberals are notorious for hiding one program behind the front of another"

Hm, sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.

Admittedly, I know very little about Green Peace, but relatively few liberals are in any way involved with, just as few conservatives are involved with the Christian Coalition.

WE!

Date: 2006-03-10 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nikki-6.livejournal.com
Happy birthday you sexy man!!!!!!!

Re: WE!

Date: 2006-03-10 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hugs.livejournal.com
yay!!

dance, dance, dance!

Date: 2006-03-10 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poisongirl.livejournal.com
Sounds like the opposite of why my car always failed it-the check engine light was always fucking on. I hate emissions testing and I totally agree with you. Fuckers.

Date: 2006-03-11 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tgrey.livejournal.com
you've confused the issue... you didn't fail because the light was burned out. you failed because the light was on. you just didn't know it was on, because it was burned out.
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